About Fethullah Gulen and terror.


From "What's Behind Turkey's Coup & Purge?" published on mintpressnews.com

----------------As Joshua Cook of Truth In Media wrote:
A classified communication reveals that many secularists in Turkey are convinced that the ruling Justice and Development Party (AKP) is the creation of the United States Government (USG), and that Washington bolsters and funds the Fethullah Gülen movement.

Is the CIA or another agency in the USG using the Gülen movement to fund “cold war” operations overseas? Is the USG using the Gülen Islamic schools to influence Central Asia with a more “moderate” version of Islam to rival more racial Islamic sects?
Some claim that Gulen is a front for the CIA. See here and here.

If there is anyone who knows the truth about the inner workings of U.S. and Turkey relations it is FBI whistle-blower Sibel Edmonds.

Sibel Edmonds on Gulen shools
 
Listen to what she says
after 1,35 min.

Cook asked Edmonds, is Gülen a threat to US interests?

“This has to do with Gülen’s role in terrorism,” said Edmonds. “Under the guise of schools [Madrasas] in Central Asia & Caucasus his network is involved in training terrorists [from Chechens to other Islamic Jihadis in the area]. The bureau had him under investigations since 1998. However, they were prevented from pursuing the cases [despite all evidence collected] due to direct pressure from the CIA/State Deptment. How do I know? Some of the case files were under the division where I worked [counterintelligence]. Other investigations were being conducted under the FBI’s crime & terrorism division.”

Cook asked, “Is the CIA using the Gülen network to fund CIA ops in Turkey?”

“They did,” said Edmonds. “It was also a channel for money laundering for their $20 billion worth network. They bring teachers from Turkey. They provide them with decent/high salaries, but then, they force them to voluntarily and individually contribute over 50% of their income to their various front charity organizations … I met with several ex-teachers and spoke with them in 2006-2008; however, because of overt and covert threats from Gülen’s network to their families in Turkey, they were not willing to come forward or go on record.”

While under oath during a legal disposition, Edmonds, was asked if she had any information regarding Fethullah Gülen.
“He landed on the Turkish government’s wanted list and was going to be persecuted for wanting to replace Turkey’s secular government with an Islamic/Sharia-type of government. When he was wanted in Turkey for that and was going to go jail, he actually got on a plane and came to the United States, and was given immediately a visa to stay in the United States,” said Edmonds.

Edmonds states that Gülen has close ties to training militant Muslims.

Source: http://www.mintpressnews.com/whats-behind-turkeys-coup-purge/218566

Sibel Edmonds testimony about Fethullah Gulen
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BEFORE THE OHIO ELECTIONS COMMISSION

DEPOSITION

 

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IN THE MATTER OF:

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JEAN SCHMIDT,

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Plaintiff,

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DAVID KRIKORIAN,

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Saturday,

August 8, 2009

National Whisteblowers

Center

3238 P Street, N.W.

Washington, D.C. 20007

DEPOSITION OF:

SIBEL DENIZ EDMONDS

called for examination by Counsel for the Defendant, pursuant to Notice of Deposition,

at the National Whistleblowers Center, located at 3238 P Street, N.W., Suite 690, Washington, D.C., when were present on behalf of the respective parties:

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APPEARANCES:

On Behalf of Plaintiff Jean Schmidt:

BRUCE FEIN, ESQ.

Of: Turkish American Legal Defense Fund

Suite 1000

1025 Connecticut Avenue, N.W. Washington, D.C. 20036

(202) 370-1399, ext 3

Web: bruce@thelichfieldgroup.com

On Behalf of Defendant David Krikorian:

DAN MARINO, ESQ.

Of: Luque, Geragos & Marino, LLP

Suite 800

910 17th Street, N.W.

Washington, D.C. 20006 Tel: (202) 223-8888 Fax: (202) 223-8677

Web: dmarino@luquegeragos.com

On Behalf of Deponent Sibel Deniz

Edmonds:

MICHAEL D. KOHN, ESQ.

Of: Kohn, Kohn & Colapinto, LLP

3233 P Street, N.W.

Washington, D.C. 20007

Tel: (202) 342-6980

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TABLE OF CONTENTS

WITNESS

DIRECT CROSS REDIRECT RECROSS

Sibel Deniz

Edmonds

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Ex.

NO. DESCRIPTION

IDENTIFIED

Edmonds Deposition:

1 Subpoena . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .7

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P R O C E E D I N G S

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(10:32 a.m.)

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VIDEO OPERATOR: Will counsel and

4others present, please introduce themselves

5and state whom they represent?

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MR. MARINO:

Dan Marino here on

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behalf of

Mr. Krikorian.

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MR. FEIN:

Could I interject an

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objection

here?

 

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Is Mr. Marino admitted in this

11case to practice before the Ohio Elections

12Commission?

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MR. MARINO:

Why don't you --

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MR. FEIN:

What is the answer to

15

that question, sir?

 

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MR. MARINO:

Why don't you go

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ahead and identify yourself?

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MR. KRIKORIAN: David Krikorian.

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MR. MARINO:

Do you want to?

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Who's the next gentleman?

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MR. ELWOOD:

Phil Elwood. I work

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at KL.

 

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MR. MARINO:

I'd like to

have

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everyone identify themselves.

 

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MR. FEIN:

Sure.

 

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MR. MARINO:

And you're Mr.?

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MR. FEIN:

I'm Mr. Bruce

Fein.

6I'm counsel for Jean Schmidt in this

7proceeding.

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MR.

MARINO:

Okay.

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MR.

KOHN:

I'm Michael Kohn with

10Kohn, Kohn & Colapinto, representing the

11witness Sibel Edmonds, and with me are three

12law clerks. That's it.

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VIDEO OPERATOR:

Thank you.

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Will the court

reporter please

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swear in the witness after

which

we can begin?

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THE REPORTER?

Would

you please

17raise your right hand?

18Whereupon,

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SIBEL DENIZ EDMONDS

20was called as a witness by counsel for the

21Defendant and, having been first duly sworn,

22was examined and testified as follows:

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1

the mujahideen.

2

A

Correct.

3

Q

It's now called al-Qaeda.

4

A

Right.

5Q And has it generally been publicly

6reported that al-Qaeda was behind the 9/11

7attacks?

8

A

Correct.

9

Q

And that cost American lives?

10

A

Correct.

11Q How else has, to your knowledge,

12the mujahideen or al-Qaeda that Turkey was

13supporting cost American lives?

14A September 11 and the other

15category I talked about was the intelligence

16and identifying assets or the front companies.

17The third category that involved narcotics

18activities and that was, at least until I

19left, these Turkish people, and some of them

20are directly connected to Turkish intelligence

21and Turkish military in the United States,

22they played a very significant role in

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1bringing in heroin from source from

2Afghanistan to Turkey, but from Turkey into

3both United States, but also directly to

4Belgium, large quantity, very, very large

5quantity of heroin.

6Q All right. So if I were to say

7that -- if I were a Congress person and I'm

8taking money from the Turkish government

9either directly or indirectly, would it be a

10fair statement that I'm taking money from a

11government that has engaged in policies and

12practices that cost American lives?

13

A

Correct.

14Q Are you familiar with a person

15named Fetullah Gulan, G-u-l-a-n?

16A Yes.

17Q Can you tell us who that is?

18A My information is mainly about his

19activities and issues that were, again, done

20from late 1990s until I left, and then after

21that it will be known activities here in the

22United States. He shortly -- he was the

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1religious activist figure in Turkey, and he

2landed on Turkish government's wanted list and

3was going to be persecuted for wanting to

4throw Turkish secular government -- replace it

5with Islamic shariah kind of type of

6government.

7

And when he was wanted in Turkey

8for that and he was going to go to jail, he

9actually got on the plane and came to the

10United States, and he was given immediately

11visa to stay in the United States, and he has

12been in the United States until now as far as

13I know.

14

He has since established more than

15300 madrasahs in Central Asia and what he

16calls universities that have a front that is

17called Moderate Islam, but he is closely

18involved in training mujahideen-like militia

19Islam who are brought from Pakistan and

20Afghanistan into Central Asia where his

21madrasahs operate, and his organization's

22network is estimated to be around $25

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1 billion.

2

He has opened several Islamic

3universities in the United States. As I said

4it's being promoted under Moderate Islam. It

5is supported by certain U.S. authorities here

6because of the operations in Central Asia, but

7what they have been doing since late 1990s is

8actually radical Islam and militizing

9(phonetic) these very, very young, from the

10age 14, 15, by commandoes they use, and this

11is both commandoes from Turkish military,

12commandoes from Pakistani ISI in Central Asia

13and Azerbaijan, and after that they bring them

14to Turkey, and from Turkey they send them

15through Europe, to European and elsewhere.

16

Up until 1999, the Turkish

17government, also paramilitary units in Central

18Asia, they operated under the groups that call

19themselves Gray Wolves, ultra-nationalists,

20and their method was, you know, assassination

21of certain leaders in the Central Asian

22countries, and militizing, but not through

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1 Islam.

2

But after this scandal that took

3place in Turkey, Susurluk scandal, they were

4no longer supported by certain segments in the

5United States, and instead some of our people

6involved in foreign policy, they supported the

7Islamic movements of Gulan in the Central

8Asian countries in order to counter Russia as

9far as the energy sources are concerned in

10those countries.

11Q How is it, if you know, or how is

12it that Gulan is allowed to be in the United

13States?

14

 

Let me ask a different question.

15

A

Okay.

16Q I'm sorry. Is that an individual

17based on what you've told me that you would be

18-- that you would consider a threat to U.S.

19interests?

20A One hundred percent, absolutely.

21Q And if you know, how is it that

22he's allowed to be in the United States?

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1A Because part of what he has in

2terms of the deal with certain segments in the

3United States is furthering the interests of

4the people who are interested in the energy

5sources in Central Asia, and that is the --

6whether it's oil or whether it's natural gas,

7and basically it's a fight.

8

The best way to describe it is

9Cold War is not over. It's a continuation of

10Cold War over those nations, and what we did

11in Afghanistan in early 1980s with mujahideen,

12we have been joined now in Central Asia by

13using Islam and extremism and these madrasahs,

14and Pakistani and Afghani elements to build

15(unintelligible) and staff in terms of those

16resources towards certain business interests.

17Q Did you say that Gulan had set up

18schools in the United States as well?

19

A

Yes.

20Q Are some of those in Cincinnati,

21if you know?

22A I'm not sure. I know of some in

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1Texas. I know one in Virginia, but I don't

2know. They are multiplying, and they're

3spreading rapidly. There's Islamic madrasahs

4or universities everywhere. So I haven't kept

5track of the locations. I don't know.

6Q I assume that - -well, let me just

7ask you, and I'm not trying to put you on the

8spot. If you can't answer, just tell me.

9

Would you be prepared to tell me

10who the Congresswoman is that we've been

11talking about?

12A I would have, and it wouldn't be

13because of classification I don't believe. I

14-- if in case this congressional person did

15not bend under the pressure in case. I just

16don't want somebody, innocent person's

17reputation destroyed because I don't know if

18this person complied with whatever she

19happened to be blackmailed later. I think

20I --

21Q All right. That's fair enough. I

22take it then from what you've told me that the

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